at this moment they're trying to make their own deal with people like john mccain for next to nothing, from our point of view. you wouldn't see any of those four changes that we're pushing for. and i think he is reluctant, unfortunately, to go ahead with the overwhelming majority of democrats that he has. he has 51 democrats that would support senate resolution 4. and we need the american people to call in to senator reid and say, let's take a stand. let's bring democracy to the u.s. senate. >> the polls suggest that the majority of americans really want filibuster reform and want the talking filibuster back. >> right. overwhelming majority. two-thirds, at least. on the other side, 7 or 8 or 9% say, oh, yeah, they should be able to phone in from their fundrai fundraiser, and say, i object, and now you have unanimous consent, and to get out of unanimous consent, you need 60 votes to move forward. very few americans believed that's what they elected a senator to do. >> so a senator could be sitting somewhere off on capitol hill, raising money on the telephone which they all spend hours